Making technology accessible

Making technology accessible

Postby Nufis. » 10 Jan 2012, 18:13

Hello everybody,
I'm a newcomer here, but nevertheless I have the strong feeling that this technology will rule the hell out of stage device market very shortly. And I want to be close to it when it happens. :D
But for the very beginning I have to admit, that even the best technology could be ruined very easily if wrongly marketed.
I mean, if you are going to push it to market for masses, the pricing is way to high to reach anywhere further than 'some elite geeks only' could afford.
I'll give an example - Alyseum AL-88 on schneidersladen.de costs 690 Eur - the correct price in my opinion would be somewhere around 190 Eur... Alyseum AL-22 - 190 Eur - wrong... Must be 49, ok 69......79 Eur at max! Alyseum ALeX - 99 Eur - no way - 29 Eur! Copperduino... not more than 59...
Ok, I know this is a new technology, and there is a great possibility that someone have spent thousands on R&D, however having priced it like this you rather ruin your marvel technology than get it down to masses level.
With all of this I just tried to say - get the prices down quickly, licence it for a reasonable price to mass manufacturers, like Mackie, dbx, MOTU, Behringer, or whatever and you will see a quantum leap both in terms of major (I'm talking about once or twice in a century event) technological shift in the industry and your income due to mass of production rather than price of few models in the market right now.
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Re: Making technology accessible

Postby Copperhead » 10 Jan 2012, 23:56

@Nufis

Thank you for your constructive comments.

I can only talk for CopperLan, not for the manufacturers implementing it.
We bear no responsibility in the pricing of Alyseum products. It is their business to set the price point at the level they like.

As published on our website, our license cost is set at two Euros maximum per unit sold.

I would like to refrain for commenting the various product prices as you did. I can't nevertheless pass to mention that MIDI or CV interfaces with Ethernet connections are far from being mainstream. So we're not comparing apples to apples here.
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Re: Making technology accessible

Postby Nufis. » 11 Jan 2012, 14:16

Of course I'm not going to ask for any reponsibility from your side...
I'm just hoping to share my opinions at the right place for the right people to hear...

"As published on our website, our license cost is set at two Euros maximum per unit sold." - that is good, and that is right!

"I can't nevertheless pass to mention that MIDI or CV interfaces with Ethernet connections are far from being mainstream." - and here you are wrong... ....BUT THEY COULD BE! Like the MIDI is now. With your objective to take the place of (now "king of the castle") MIDI one day, I'd be more agressively tempered...
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Re: Making technology accessible

Postby Copperhead » 11 Jan 2012, 15:10

"I can't nevertheless pass to mention that MIDI or CV interfaces with Ethernet connections are far from being mainstream." - and here you are wrong... ....BUT THEY COULD BE! Like the MIDI is now. With your objective to take the place of (now "king of the castle") MIDI one day, I'd be more agressively tempered...

Sorry, I don't get it when you say that I'm wrong. Do you mean that there are plenty of Ethernet-based MIDI and CV interfaces that I wouldn't be aware of? (my point was that there aren't many available at this point).
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Re: Making technology accessible

Postby solipsvs » 06 Feb 2017, 08:11

i think he is saying pursue business opportunities aggressively (read: make your own hardware?) and

aim prices for the masses and

get rich? i dunno. seems logical to me. BE the leader, dont wait for a participant to carry the hardware torch. carry your own torch and prosper with THE best solution on the market!

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Re: Making technology accessible

Postby solipsvs » 18 Feb 2017, 14:01

no comment Phil?

you seem 'above all the obvious' and maybe this is why you cant see possibilities...

the way i see it is you are missing out on sales because of your inflexibility. i think theres plenty of buyers who need midi peripherals out there. and youre sitting here on your technology. dont you want their money? are you too intellectually constipated to see an opportunity here?
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Re: Making technology accessible

Postby solipsvs » 21 Feb 2017, 19:23

well its pretty sad that all this awesome technology is just being wasted by your company. that you dont have the balls to manufacture your own hardware and instead think you can make it work with the model you are running with. where does that leave us? you dont actually care about our desires... the people who could fund your future.
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